that going to mean for president obama's legacy on gay marriage? >> it's complicated, because the supreme court could rule any number of ways. it could be a very sweeping decision or a very narrow decision. i think the court likes to be with the times. and if the president of the united states is saying we should not be discriminating against people who want to marry somebody they love. and a majority of the country supports gay marriage, you're going to see more and more alimit of all the different parties on that. >> if the high court decides on doma, what does that mean for opponents for same-sex marriage? is that a settled issue, but is it like obama care and we'll still be talking about it years from now? >> we'll still be talking about it. let's let the states decide one at a time and that's probably the best way. public opinion is definitely shifting. maybe ten years from now, they all will be there. >> if the states decide, then we have patch work of laws where you have folks who can get married in california, but if they move to nebraska,